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Sunday, January 06, 2008

Muslim's forming closed societies in Britain!

I saw a piece in Britain's "Sunday Telegraph" that you should know about!

Islamic extremists have created "no-go" areas across Britain where it is too dangerous for non-Muslims to enter, one of the Church of England's most senior bishops warns today.

The Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, the Bishop of Rochester and the Church's only Asian bishop, says that people of a different race or faith face physical attack if they live or work in communities dominated by a strict Muslim ideology.

Bishop Nazir-Ali, who was born in Pakistan, gives warning that attempts are being made to give Britain an increasingly Islamic character by introducing the call to prayer and wider use of sharia law, a legal system based on the Koran.

In an attack on the Government's response to immigration and the influx of "people of other faiths to these shores", he blames its "novel philosophy of multiculturalism" for allowing society to become deeply divided, and accuses ministers of lacking a "moral and spiritual vision".

Echoing Trevor Phillips, the chairman of the Commission for Equalities and Human Rights, who has said that the country is "sleepwalking into segregation", the Bishop argues that multiculturalism has led to deep divisions.

David Davis, the shadow home secretary, has accused Muslims of promoting a kind of "voluntary apartheid" by shutting themselves in closed societies and demanding immunity from criticism.

Allan W Janssen is the author of the book The Plain Truth About God (What the mainstream religions don't want you to know!) and is available at the web site www.God-101.com

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Further evidence that "Eurabia" is closer to reality than most people are willing to admit.

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:58:00 p.m.  
Anonymous Nick P said...

I'm sorry, but is there ANY proof of this other than a few CHRISTIAN leaders who are upset about Christianity not having a stranglehold on England anymore (obvious motive)? Are there any reports of Muslims murdering, raping, abusing, etc non-Muslims that enter those "no-go" zones? Any actual evidence that any type of seclusion is going on other than what a few people say?

This smells eerily like the Channel 4 Dispatches program which asserted that many prominent Muslim clerics in Britain were teaching hate, yet a government investigation showed this to be complete BS. Given that the media has produced such rubbish as that "documentary" and what a bang-up job they did on the Iraq War, among countless other gems of journalistic integrity, should we really be so trust-worthy of them THIS time?

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:59:00 p.m.  
Anonymous Nick P said...

The entire article of propaganda can be viewed here:


Seems like it's worked for a few people so far who rely more on anecdotal evidence than empirical evidence.

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:59:00 p.m.  
Blogger Allan said...

Nick you have a very good point and if it wasn't for the few small examples such as blowing up buses in London and stuff like that I would say it's all bullshit. But, given the fact that they have blown up buses and rioted in Paris and blown up trains in Madrid and crashed into the WTC and blown up nightclubs in Bali and ........ My fingers are getting tired of typing so do I have to go on?
Allan Janssen

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:00:00 p.m.  
Anonymous Nick P. said...

"My fingers are getting tired of typing so do I have to go on?"

Americans and British invaded Iraq unnecessarily, would you not agree? They, along with nearly every other Western nation, also have very deep histories with regards to slavery, genocides, colonizations and so forth, major human rights abuses in general. Not to mention correct abuses against minorities and others by extremist groups of practically every ideology (nationalist, anti-nationalist, religious, ethnic, economic, etc).

So if a paper in Egypt or anywhere else in the world were to come out saying that Americans and British are instituting a policy against any racial, ethnic, national or religious group, would that mean we should take it at heart simply because of what other people had done in the past or halfway around the world who have a slight resemblance to Americans or the British? Do we not still abide by a fundamental principle of "innocent unless proven guilty"? Are we still not a society, a humanity, that judges a person or persons based upon what they themselves have accomplished or committed rather than what someone else has committed who has properties, characteristics or religious qualities similar to them? Are you saying that we should believe every single piece of literature and hate-speech that comes out against Muslims or any other group simply because of what a few, or even a large party, of that group has done? Because of atrocities committed by Israeli forces and extremists like Baruch Goldstein, should we believe every thing that David Duke, or any other piece of medium, says about Jews?

No, it's a very slippery slope that should never be gone down. Humans have gone down the road of believing everything that the media was fed to them and it always leads to disaster in one form or another.

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:01:00 p.m.  
Anonymous Nick P said...

One should ask oneself: Where are the real "no-go" zones and to whom do they apply?


In a decade, 58 people were killed for racial reasons and 24 of them were white. Now given that 90% of the UK is white, that means that there is a massive disproportionate amount of non-Whites (ie. blacks and Asians) who are victims of racially motivated crime.

Here we have some more facts:


Three people have been murdered in the past few months in one town alone. 2 were Asian/Muslim and one white (one also injured). Seems like some whites have no problem dealing with the "no-go zones". In fact, they're setting up their own little shop themselves to actually accomplish that.

Now where are the facts that areas of London or Britain are becoming no-go zones where it is too dangerous? More dangerous than what Asians and blacks face from white gangs?

Assuming that this article is right about close societies as you claim, maybe they have a reason. Maybe they'd like NOT to be killed for no reason at all.

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:01:00 p.m.  
Blogger Allan said...

Nick don't get me wrong, the US because of oil and Britain from the empire days have done an incredible amount of damage around the world. The reason I comment on this is because I believe Islam is about due for a reformation much the same as is happening in the Christian church. I would rather do away with religion entirerly but since we can't then let's try and temper it a bit.
One site I have visited in the past while is http://www.reformislam.org/ and the blog there called Muslims against Sharia. You should visist it.
Allan Janssen

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:02:00 p.m.  

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